Talk:Charts - Misc charts - Revision history

Freddie at 22:27, 12 November 2022

2022-11-12T22:27:30Z

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	**Above and below the table on the [[Main Page]], there are links to short instructions		**Above and below the table on the [[Original Cumulus Wiki\|original Main Page]], there are links to short instructions
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	#* Use multiple tilde <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to add you user name, or more tildes <nowiki>~~~~~</nowiki> to add date/time, you could have discovered that from links on the [[Main Page]];		#* Use multiple tilde <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to add you user name, or more tildes <nowiki>~~~~~</nowiki> to add date/time, you could have discovered that from links on the [[Original Cumulus Wiki\|original Main Page]];
	#**[[Help:Contents]] is linked above table,		#**[[Help:Contents]] is linked above table,
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HansR at 08:00, 7 May 2021

2021-05-07T08:00:02Z

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			== [[User:Sfws\|Sfws]] ([[User talk:Sfws\|talk]]) 10:42, 17 April 2021 (UTC) ==
	''Apparently the Meteorological Service of Britain does it still differently and does not use automatic measurement but takes manual readings twice a day and creates the daily average by ( M a x + M i n ) / 2 {\displaystyle (Max+Min)/2} {\displaystyle (Max+Min)/2} and the argument is that comparison with observations from before the computer era must be made.		''Apparently the Meteorological Service of Britain does it still differently and does not use automatic measurement but takes manual readings twice a day and creates the daily average by ( M a x + M i n ) / 2 {\displaystyle (Max+Min)/2} {\displaystyle (Max+Min)/2} and the argument is that comparison with observations from before the computer era must be made.

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	== ~~(max~~ + ~~min)~~ / 2 ~~average usage~~ ==		== Reply : HansR 29 Apr 2021 ==

			'''(max + min) / 2 estimator usage'''

	I disagree with the continuous usage of the named average because:		I disagree with the continuous usage of the named average because:
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			== sfws unsigned, 14:22, 1 May 2021 (UTC) ==
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	As said before, the only administrator, on this Wiki, with good Wiki knowledge, is user [[User:saratogaWX\|SaratogaWX]].		As said before, the only administrator, on this Wiki, with good Wiki knowledge, is user [[User:saratogaWX\|SaratogaWX]].

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			== [[User:HansR\|HansR]] ([[User talk:HansR\|talk]]) 08:00, 7 May 2021 (UTC) ==
			Dear @sfws, your implicit assumption that if information is written somewhere it is also found and read, is incorrect. I do my best but reading Joyce's Ulysses has less links and sirens.
			However, thanks for the pointers. I don't receive emails when the pages are changed - e.g. this page which I definitely watch - and apparently that is not good so I'll contact SaratogaWX.

			[[User:HansR\|HansR]] ([[User talk:HansR\|talk]])

Sfws: typo correction

2021-05-01T14:24:19Z

typo correction

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	#* Use ~~four~~ tilde <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to add you user name, or 6 tildes <nowiki>~~~~~~</nowiki> to ~~also~~ add date/time, you could have discovered that from links on the [[Main Page]];		#* Use multiple tilde <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to add you user name, or more tildes <nowiki>~~~~~</nowiki> to add date/time, you could have discovered that from links on the [[Main Page]];
	#**[[Help:Contents]] is linked above table,		#**[[Help:Contents]] is linked above table,
	#**and [[How_you_can_contribute]] is linked below the table.		#**and [[How_you_can_contribute]] is linked below the table.

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Sfws: restyling

2021-05-01T14:22:06Z

restyling

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 I am beginning to understand how the wiki works and that i am supposed to read the watch list. There should be a short instruction for new users!

Sfws: Reverted edits by Sfws (talk) to last revision by HansR

2021-05-01T14:12:11Z

Reverted edits by Sfws (talk) to last revision by HansR

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 I am beginning to understand how the wiki works and that i am supposed to read the watch list. There should be a short instruction for new users!

Sfws at 14:11, 1 May 2021

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 I am beginning to understand how the wiki works and that i am supposed to read the watch list. There should be a short instruction for new users!

HansR: /* (max + min) / 2 average usage */

2021-04-29T01:00:44Z

(max + min) / 2 average usage

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			Last two point because @sfws had thatnin the discussion starter.

	I am beginning to understand how the wiki works and that i am supposed to read the watch list. There should be a short instruction for new users!		I am beginning to understand how the wiki works and that i am supposed to read the watch list. There should be a short instruction for new users!

HansR: /* (max + min) / 2 average usage */

2021-04-29T00:57:00Z

(max + min) / 2 average usage

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	2) is it possible to send a message when a watched page is changed by somebody not yourself?		#is it possible to send a message when a watched page is changed by somebody not yourself?

	I am beginning to understand how the wiki works and that i am supposed to read the watch list. There should be a short instruction for new users!		I am beginning to understand how the wiki works and that i am supposed to read the watch list. There should be a short instruction for new users!

HansR: /* (max + min) / 2 average usage */

2021-04-29T00:54:12Z

(max + min) / 2 average usage

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	I disagree with the continuous usage of the named average because:		I disagree with the continuous usage of the named average because:

	1) it is not internal to CumulusMX		#it is not internal to CumulusMX
	2) comparison with historic series should be accomplished by statisticians and not by maintaining ancient calculation methods. An example of this method exists in the Netherlands. It is is not up to Cumulus to maintain usage of the old calculation method.		#comparison with historic series should be accomplished by statisticians and not by maintaining ancient calculation methods. An example of this method exists in the Netherlands. It is is not up to Cumulus to maintain usage of the old calculation method.

	Continued fall back in discussions for the usage of (Max + Min)/ 2 is confusing as if you are saying it is '''better''' then the Cumukus method. In the discussion on Temp Sum it even became the definition of Temp Sum which definitely is wrong.		Continued fall back in discussions for the usage of (Max + Min)/ 2 is confusing as if you are saying it is '''better''' then the Cumukus method. In the discussion on Temp Sum it even became the definition of Temp Sum which definitely is wrong.

HansR: /* (max + min) / 2 average usage */ new section

2021-04-29T00:53:09Z

(max + min) / 2 average usage: new section

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	[[User:Sfws\|Sfws]] ([[User talk:Sfws\|talk]]) 10:42, 17 April 2021 (UTC)		[[User:Sfws\|Sfws]] ([[User talk:Sfws\|talk]]) 10:42, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

			== (max + min) / 2 average usage ==

			I disagree with the continuous usage of the named average because:

			1) it is not internal to CumulusMX
			2) comparison with historic series should be accomplished by statisticians and not by maintaining ancient calculation methods. An example of this method exists in the Netherlands. It is is not up to Cumulus to maintain usage of the old calculation method.

			Continued fall back in discussions for the usage of (Max + Min)/ 2 is confusing as if you are saying it is '''better''' then the Cumukus method. In the discussion on Temp Sum it even became the definition of Temp Sum which definitely is wrong.

			We are talking about different estimators for the average of which the 'integral method' is native to CumukusMX. It is not the responsibility of CMX to supply comparison valid values.

			I modified the fragment (removed @sfws striked text) and added a link to the scientific article by the KNMI on the homogenisation of different series of temperature measurement.

			NOTE:
			1) is it possible to send a message if a watch page is talked about?
			2) is it possible to send a message when a watched page is changed by somebody not yourself?

			I am beginning to understand how the wiki works and that i am supposed to read the watch list. There should be a short instruction for new users!